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Daisy
09-21-2011, 08:01 PM
They have broken up.

So sad.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/21/rem-breaks-up-michael-stipe_n_974144.html

Jake
09-21-2011, 08:06 PM
yeah but they haven't been good since the early 90s right


i mean i have Automatic for the People. from what i understand that's like the last great one? i dunno i never delved that hardcore into them. i have Green and Automatic.


someone should tell me what i need otherwise

Daisy
09-21-2011, 08:16 PM
Yes, you're right.

Document is my favorite album. I also like Murmur and Reckoning.

But then, I admit I'm really biased as I don't really care for much after Green.

Wilhelm
09-21-2011, 08:16 PM
Sadness mitigated by the fact that they're insanely rich...but as I said here or on LSP, one week I was like, "dUrh, remember? R.E.M. had a bunch of good songs? :huh:" and I re-listened and thought it was fucking lame that no one talks about them anymore. In-80's that stuff was fucking genius, beyond the others, like U2 was when they first came out.

I read this,

Ethan Kaplan, owner of the R.E.M. fan community Murmurs (http://www.murmurs.com/) and former Senior Vice President of Emerging Technology at Warner Bros. Records, says that the band's decision was influenced in part by label politics. "I suspected this was coming last fall," Kaplan tells Rolling Stone. "If you remember, they weathered a lot of storms in this business, and have always operated on their own terms. [Warner Bros.] changed starting last September, and I think the demands on a band now to get a record out were more than they might have wanted to commit. I can understand that after how hard they worked for how long, the thought of going back to 'paying dues' with new label staff, in a very weird industry, was too much."
and agree, th^t would suck, except, that's actually a problem...I heard genius hit, genius hit, genius hit, genius hit...then, at best, nothing memorable, at worst, crap. So they really did have to go back to paying dues, which, I imagine, is a weak motivator when you're wealthy beyond your dreams and have won tons of awards and been featured on Sesame Street, etc.


It's weird, loving them as a kid, now being old, and it all comes down to: "To anyone who ever felt touched by our music, our deepest thanks for listening."which is exactly what you'd want to hear, but drives the point home that we're all just creatures fucking around until we die and nothing really means anything.

Daisy
09-21-2011, 08:20 PM
that's actually a problem...I heard genius hit, genius hit, genius hit, genius hit...then, at best, nothing memorable, at worst, crap. So they really did have to go back to paying dues, which, I imagine, is a weak motivator when you're wealthy beyond your dreams and have won tons of awards and been featured on Sesame Street, etc.

Th^s... very much this.

Jake
09-21-2011, 08:20 PM
wilhelm what should i go after besides Document

Wilhelm
09-21-2011, 08:30 PM
someone should tell me what i need otherwiseI say every human at least needs:



Radio Free Europe
Begin The Begin
Fall On Me
Superman


and several others to which I'd have to re-listen before recommending.

The best is Fall On Me though, how truly heart-breaking it sounds as you have no fucking idea what he's talking about.

Wilhelm
09-21-2011, 08:37 PM
wilhelm what should i go after besides Document I never liked "albums" with them, just the awesome stand out songs.

Lifes Rich Pageant was the one where I remember the fewest desires to skip a song and it seemed like a magical world opened up around you when we'd play it but I think that was because of how old we were and that it was the new R.E.M. after waiting and listening to the old R.E.M.

Jake
09-21-2011, 08:43 PM
mebbe i should just go after that 80s comp they have. i bought the 90s comp a long time ago for like $5 at wal-mart one day but i don't know where the fuck it is and i never ripped it.

Daisy
09-21-2011, 08:52 PM
You're probably not going to get Begin the Begin on any compilation, but Singles Collected should get you coverage from Murmur through Document.

http://www.amazon.com/Singles-Collected-Rem/dp/B000005RQP/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1316638375&sr=8-1

Jake
09-21-2011, 08:59 PM
i am listening to What's the Frequency Kenneth right now


always liked it. the backwards-sounding guitar part:inlove:

Wilhelm
09-21-2011, 09:03 PM
Haha, yeah,
"Feathers hit the ground before the weight can leave the air. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/Wilhelm-Scream/HYPE/verysadgm0.gifhttp://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/Wilhelm-Scream/HYPE/verysadgm0.gifhttp://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/Wilhelm-Scream/HYPE/verysadgm0.gifhttp://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/Wilhelm-Scream/HYPE/verysadgm0.gifhttp://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/Wilhelm-Scream/HYPE/verysadgm0.gif"
I'm amused, it's so tragic.

Mr Sparkle
09-23-2011, 06:54 PM
It's weird, I thought a lot of the stuff they did post-automatic for the people, Monster has awesome tracks "crush with eyeliner" "strange currencies" even the oddly hyper "star 69". and "new adventures in Hi-FI" has that great line "aluminum tastes like fear..." it's a dark record which is weird when it comes to R.E.M. who are better at being morose rather than bleak.
"around the sun" though? that album sucks balls for some reason, it was a weird and untimely post-9-11 album that held on to an anxiety no one was feeling at the time anymore, maybe that's the downside of being a prosperous band, you get too much time to really get in touch with your feelings and when you put it to wax it sound like an old man talking about Vietnam, there's no way you can connect, just kinda nod and move on.
but "reveal" has got to be one of my favorite R.E.M records, it has that great mix of cynicism and wonder you expect from Stipe without a lot of the contrivance of early R.E.M which is still genius in many ways.
the problem is probably as wilhelm puts it, but really they're prisoners of their own success, I was listening to "collapse into now" recently and it has some great sonkgs but everyone tunes in expecting the next ubiquitous radio-friendly song , maybe they just didn't want to do that anymore.

KaineDamo
09-29-2011, 11:14 PM
Up is an awesome album.

Mee
09-30-2011, 08:49 PM
They're from Georgia :hodeitup:


I've always liked them. Never enough to buy an album, but I hear them and like it. :huh::up:

JayTee
09-30-2011, 11:58 PM
Georgia 4 Eva